1 00:00:10,820 --> 00:00:02,450 you're locked into inception radio 2 00:00:14,270 --> 00:00:10,830 network superior Wisconsin your tool in 3 00:00:18,230 --> 00:00:14,280 tonight vision radio exposing the truth 4 00:00:20,599 --> 00:00:18,240 one secret at a time prepare yourself as 5 00:00:23,290 --> 00:00:20,609 we explore the shadow world of 6 00:00:26,660 --> 00:00:23,300 suppressed history secret knowledge 7 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:26,670 forbidden religion and shine a light on 8 00:00:48,970 --> 00:01:10,570 what 9 00:01:10,580 --> 00:01:15,460 welcome to night vision radio 10 00:01:21,410 --> 00:01:18,290 well that's Steely Dan for you from the 11 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:21,420 Royals damn album this is taking me back 12 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:24,330 to my rock and roll radio days I tell 13 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:27,570 you it's a it's a tie in actually the 14 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:30,240 name of that song is the caves of 15 00:01:35,390 --> 00:01:33,330 Altamira where they're talking about you 16 00:01:37,510 --> 00:01:35,400 know some prehistoric caves in Spain 17 00:01:42,890 --> 00:01:37,520 where they found writing that was about 18 00:01:45,380 --> 00:01:42,900 20,000 years old on the wall and it was 19 00:01:47,420 --> 00:01:45,390 the first time that it there was a lot 20 00:01:49,609 --> 00:01:47,430 of controversy because a lot of the 21 00:01:53,050 --> 00:01:49,619 academics argued that man was not 22 00:01:55,820 --> 00:01:53,060 advanced at that time to be able to 23 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:55,830 express themselves artistically like 24 00:02:00,200 --> 00:01:57,690 that but of course now we know different 25 00:02:02,060 --> 00:02:00,210 and in since that time I know there are 26 00:02:05,150 --> 00:02:02,070 thirty-five thousand year old even 27 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:05,160 thirty thousand year old caves found in 28 00:02:11,630 --> 00:02:08,489 France that have similar writings and 29 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:11,640 drawings amazing things and it's all 30 00:02:16,940 --> 00:02:13,610 about you know people from the past 31 00:02:18,710 --> 00:02:16,950 leaving us signs and messages and just a 32 00:02:20,930 --> 00:02:18,720 real quick before we get into the 33 00:02:22,610 --> 00:02:20,940 subject tonight just a little secret 34 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:22,620 that I'll share with you is just a 35 00:02:28,039 --> 00:02:25,530 little tidbits nothing big but you may 36 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:28,049 remember a gentleman by the name of 37 00:02:33,199 --> 00:02:31,170 Nicholas Heywood who purports to be a 38 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:33,209 member of the Priory of Sion and we were 39 00:02:38,780 --> 00:02:36,450 we introduced him to the world in a film 40 00:02:42,490 --> 00:02:38,790 that I produced a few years ago called 41 00:02:45,250 --> 00:02:42,500 bloodline and he caused quite a stir he 42 00:02:47,810 --> 00:02:45,260 you know got a lot of attention 43 00:02:50,949 --> 00:02:47,820 following his coming out publicly and 44 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:50,959 then later Robert Howells wrote a book 45 00:02:55,250 --> 00:02:53,370 based on information that he had 46 00:02:57,620 --> 00:02:55,260 received from Nicholas a wood called 47 00:03:00,170 --> 00:02:57,630 inside the Priory of Sion but an 48 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:00,180 interesting note the last time I talked 49 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:02,930 to Nicholas which was a few months ago 50 00:03:11,509 --> 00:03:07,650 he told me to look at the cover of the 51 00:03:13,759 --> 00:03:11,519 steely dan album the Royal scam and now 52 00:03:18,410 --> 00:03:13,769 this is what he claims I'm not saying 53 00:03:20,300 --> 00:03:18,420 this but he says that that is him lying 54 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:20,310 on that bench I don't know if you've 55 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:21,930 seen that picture but you could look it 56 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:23,850 up easily enough and i'll post it in the 57 00:03:28,950 --> 00:03:26,770 chat room in a few minutes but I 58 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:28,960 you what I've looked at it actually does 59 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:32,770 look like him but you know as I said I'm 60 00:03:36,210 --> 00:03:34,450 not claiming anything but that's what he 61 00:03:38,220 --> 00:03:36,220 told me he told me that he posed for 62 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:38,230 that picture back in the 70s or whenever 63 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:40,510 I guess it was the 70s when that album 64 00:03:44,730 --> 00:03:42,250 came out anyway just a little tidbit for 65 00:03:47,850 --> 00:03:44,740 its kind of silly but anyhow but our 66 00:03:51,050 --> 00:03:47,860 guest tonight is not silly nor is his 67 00:03:53,820 --> 00:03:51,060 evidence on the fantastic Beale treasure 68 00:03:56,370 --> 00:03:53,830 now I've heard a lot about the Beale 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:03:56,380 treasure for many years I worked on a 70 00:04:01,860 --> 00:04:00,130 show on the fox network oh gosh 10-15 71 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:01,870 years ago called million-dollar 72 00:04:06,510 --> 00:04:04,330 mysteries where we did a story on the 73 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:06,520 Beale treasure but I have to say it 74 00:04:12,330 --> 00:04:08,290 didn't really click in with me then and 75 00:04:14,580 --> 00:04:12,340 not until I came across Kenneth baumans 76 00:04:16,590 --> 00:04:14,590 material and that's our guest tonight 77 00:04:19,710 --> 00:04:16,600 and before I go any further I want to 78 00:04:22,170 --> 00:04:19,720 say hi Kenneth bellman well hello Renee 79 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:22,180 how are you doing I'm really good it 80 00:04:27,030 --> 00:04:24,610 thanks for joining us but I I had to say 81 00:04:28,860 --> 00:04:27,040 you know thank you so much for reaching 82 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:28,870 out to me with your material and I also 83 00:04:33,630 --> 00:04:30,610 have to thank our mutual friend Court 84 00:04:36,300 --> 00:04:33,640 lindell for sort of facilitating our 85 00:04:37,890 --> 00:04:36,310 connection and grabbing my attention 86 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:37,900 with his video that he did for you 87 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:40,450 that's on youtube because it was that 88 00:04:45,210 --> 00:04:42,250 video that made me think we'll wait a 89 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:45,220 minute maybe this build treasure is more 90 00:04:50,130 --> 00:04:47,650 interesting than I thought because I'm 91 00:04:53,100 --> 00:04:50,140 not really just into treasure hunts but 92 00:04:57,060 --> 00:04:53,110 I am into history and I'm into hidden 93 00:04:58,680 --> 00:04:57,070 knowledge and and messages and all that 94 00:05:01,530 --> 00:04:58,690 and so when I saw that there was a 95 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:01,540 templer connection and this is the 96 00:05:05,790 --> 00:05:03,250 possible Templar treasure that you're 97 00:05:09,150 --> 00:05:05,800 talking about I said oh my gosh we gotta 98 00:05:11,610 --> 00:05:09,160 have Kenneth on to explain himself yes 99 00:05:15,630 --> 00:05:11,620 court is a good friend of mine and our 100 00:05:18,750 --> 00:05:15,640 research parallels with each other and 101 00:05:22,020 --> 00:05:18,760 we become aware fairly recently of each 102 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:22,030 each other's presence and of the 103 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:25,690 research and court has been very kind 104 00:05:33,450 --> 00:05:28,690 and helping me get my second book 105 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:33,460 republished for a lot less cost which is 106 00:05:40,530 --> 00:05:36,850 a good thing and and help me with that 107 00:05:42,510 --> 00:05:40,540 video which is is explanatory to 108 00:05:46,980 --> 00:05:42,520 the research that I do in project 109 00:05:48,930 --> 00:05:46,990 reddening well it is amazing in we're 110 00:05:51,290 --> 00:05:48,940 talking about an area of the United 111 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:51,300 States in Virginia as a matter of fact 112 00:05:56,130 --> 00:05:53,410 where you're talking about this possible 113 00:05:58,170 --> 00:05:56,140 location is or where you figure that you 114 00:06:01,740 --> 00:05:58,180 have enough evidence and you've been 115 00:06:04,470 --> 00:06:01,750 able to pinpoint this location and I 116 00:06:07,290 --> 00:06:04,480 know that it has been sort of rumored to 117 00:06:11,310 --> 00:06:07,300 be there for quite some time but what I 118 00:06:15,390 --> 00:06:11,320 was really caught by was when you were 119 00:06:19,140 --> 00:06:15,400 talking about your research and how you 120 00:06:22,530 --> 00:06:19,150 realized that intuition comes into play 121 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:22,540 so heavily and that really caught my 122 00:06:27,990 --> 00:06:25,450 attention and I think you mentioned 123 00:06:30,150 --> 00:06:28,000 Ralph Waldo Emerson is being the father 124 00:06:32,310 --> 00:06:30,160 of intuition and I'm thinking well wait 125 00:06:35,220 --> 00:06:32,320 a minute intuitions been around with 126 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:35,230 women forever you know why is Ralph 127 00:06:40,770 --> 00:06:37,330 Waldo Emerson but then I did look him up 128 00:06:43,130 --> 00:06:40,780 and I found so many quotes not only from 129 00:06:46,410 --> 00:06:43,140 him but from people like Albert Einstein 130 00:06:50,250 --> 00:06:46,420 whereas you know not only is intuition 131 00:06:54,170 --> 00:06:50,260 important in research but it's paramount 132 00:06:57,030 --> 00:06:54,180 and so please tell me how you came to 133 00:07:00,330 --> 00:06:57,040 your ideas about intuition and what what 134 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:00,340 are they well first off concerning 135 00:07:06,270 --> 00:07:03,490 intuition intuition from what I've 136 00:07:09,620 --> 00:07:06,280 learned from my research in 22 years now 137 00:07:13,260 --> 00:07:09,630 of studying on this project because 138 00:07:15,390 --> 00:07:13,270 there are hits of intuition how many 139 00:07:17,310 --> 00:07:15,400 times have you walked up to a corner of 140 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:17,320 a building or something of that nature 141 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:20,890 and you just had a sense that that 142 00:07:25,590 --> 00:07:23,170 somebody was there or something was was 143 00:07:29,550 --> 00:07:25,600 going to happen and it did happen and 144 00:07:31,380 --> 00:07:29,560 and intuition was important and and like 145 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:31,390 you say Emerson was the father of 146 00:07:40,290 --> 00:07:36,730 intuition in his studies and the how 147 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:40,300 Emerson became involved here was I guess 148 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:43,450 I should start from the beginning back 149 00:07:51,810 --> 00:07:48,010 in nineteen seventy six as about a 16 150 00:07:54,150 --> 00:07:51,820 year old boy I was in my attic and my 151 00:07:56,610 --> 00:07:54,160 boyhood home and in 152 00:07:59,700 --> 00:07:56,620 to my surprise and looking through some 153 00:08:03,030 --> 00:07:59,710 of the old stuff up there in an old 154 00:08:06,090 --> 00:08:03,040 steamer trunk with a great deal of 155 00:08:08,100 --> 00:08:06,100 linens that came in it originally at the 156 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:08,110 bottom of this steamer trunk was an old 157 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:13,090 sword within its scabbard and i grasp it 158 00:08:18,180 --> 00:08:15,730 and i pulled it out and looked at it and 159 00:08:20,670 --> 00:08:18,190 I was I was mesmerised by the sword it 160 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:20,680 was really neat it was all black the 161 00:08:27,690 --> 00:08:23,170 metal was black the scabbard leather was 162 00:08:29,460 --> 00:08:27,700 black and and it was just an unusual 163 00:08:31,950 --> 00:08:29,470 item and a really caught my 164 00:08:34,589 --> 00:08:31,960 attention well my parents said that I 165 00:08:36,570 --> 00:08:34,599 could have it and they didn't really 166 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:36,580 know anything about it it just came in 167 00:08:40,529 --> 00:08:38,650 the trunk it came from my grandfather 168 00:08:45,870 --> 00:08:40,539 who sent it from Bethlehem Pennsylvania 169 00:08:50,750 --> 00:08:45,880 in the late 1940s to to my boyhood home 170 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:50,760 in Auburn Indiana it came to my mother 171 00:08:58,110 --> 00:08:55,570 her father was my grandfather and I knew 172 00:08:59,970 --> 00:08:58,120 nothing about this sword and and I kept 173 00:09:05,220 --> 00:08:59,980 it for many years not knowing anything 174 00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:05,230 about it and one year later after i came 175 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:09,040 into possession of the sword I from the 176 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:12,010 same household as my grandfather in New 177 00:09:21,090 --> 00:09:16,690 York City Long Island came an unusual 178 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:21,100 Spanish coin that was sliced in half and 179 00:09:29,190 --> 00:09:25,510 had a clipper a little pocket knife and 180 00:09:32,010 --> 00:09:29,200 a file pinned in between the haves of 181 00:09:37,620 --> 00:09:32,020 this coin about the size of a silver 182 00:09:43,770 --> 00:09:37,630 dollar and it was old it was dated 1871 183 00:09:45,690 --> 00:09:43,780 and it too I put with the sword in a 184 00:09:49,170 --> 00:09:45,700 desk drawer and I did not touch these 185 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:49,180 items really until again in 1994 I 186 00:09:56,310 --> 00:09:51,730 pulled them out and I started to study 187 00:09:58,470 --> 00:09:56,320 the sword in the coin and I look at them 188 00:10:03,000 --> 00:09:58,480 objectively I tried to identify the 189 00:10:05,190 --> 00:10:03,010 sword and and what army possessed it 190 00:10:07,140 --> 00:10:05,200 what person may have possessed it and 191 00:10:07,810 --> 00:10:07,150 learned a little bit about the coin the 192 00:10:11,980 --> 00:10:07,820 numis man 193 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:11,990 of the particular Spanish coin well as 194 00:10:20,980 --> 00:10:16,490 an objective view I just learned facts 195 00:10:22,750 --> 00:10:20,990 about these items well as I studied more 196 00:10:24,850 --> 00:10:22,760 and more about them and became a little 197 00:10:30,970 --> 00:10:24,860 bit more obsessed if you will concerning 198 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:30,980 the study of these items a strange thing 199 00:10:43,350 --> 00:10:34,910 began to happen with the study of these 200 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:48,060 looked to try to understand the the 201 00:10:53,860 --> 00:10:51,290 markings on the coin itself and the 202 00:11:00,990 --> 00:10:53,870 sword had also had some markings on it 203 00:11:03,370 --> 00:11:01,000 and a long story short and in my book it 204 00:11:05,500 --> 00:11:03,380 details a lot of great deal of 205 00:11:07,540 --> 00:11:05,510 information concerning the path that I 206 00:11:10,270 --> 00:11:07,550 took in the objective study of these 207 00:11:12,340 --> 00:11:10,280 items which will help me now and not 208 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:12,350 relaying every bit of information about 209 00:11:18,250 --> 00:11:16,130 it but long story short I learned what I 210 00:11:22,180 --> 00:11:18,260 have coined the phrase literary 211 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:22,190 steganography literary being obviously 212 00:11:30,790 --> 00:11:26,450 text and steganography being a form of 213 00:11:36,610 --> 00:11:30,800 cryptography real quick a definition of 214 00:11:38,860 --> 00:11:36,620 steganography is a cryptogram is 215 00:11:40,930 --> 00:11:38,870 something that we see on its face it's 216 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:40,940 there before us we know there's a secret 217 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:45,050 hidden behind the numbers or or the 218 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:47,810 other items that are the pictographs or 219 00:11:53,050 --> 00:11:50,690 whatever and we know there's a message 220 00:11:55,450 --> 00:11:53,060 hidden well in steger nog raphy for 221 00:11:58,750 --> 00:11:55,460 instance we don't even know that there 222 00:12:01,800 --> 00:11:58,760 is a puzzle if you can identify that 223 00:12:05,590 --> 00:12:01,810 there is a puzzle then you can begin to 224 00:12:08,020 --> 00:12:05,600 learn what is behind that puzzle the 225 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:08,030 secret message hidden so there's the 226 00:12:14,050 --> 00:12:10,250 definition of segun ography in the 227 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:14,060 difference between cryptography hmm well 228 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:17,770 and the so the difference is is that 229 00:12:21,490 --> 00:12:19,970 cryptography you know you're dealing 230 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:21,500 with a code and 231 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:25,130 if instead of nog raphy you mayor you 232 00:12:31,030 --> 00:12:28,850 have to first identify that there is the 233 00:12:34,930 --> 00:12:31,040 code that there is a secret puzzle 234 00:12:37,690 --> 00:12:34,940 hidden yes that's pretty I see and and 235 00:12:41,020 --> 00:12:37,700 that's in any in any writings or 236 00:12:43,660 --> 00:12:41,030 carvings or anything that you might come 237 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:43,670 across where there is lettering or 238 00:12:51,970 --> 00:12:49,130 markings or would that include you know 239 00:12:54,340 --> 00:12:51,980 like is that in in manuscripts or is it 240 00:12:56,350 --> 00:12:54,350 on you know carved in stones or is it 241 00:12:58,150 --> 00:12:56,360 just in does that apply to anything that 242 00:13:02,230 --> 00:12:58,160 you would find and what were you 243 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:02,240 applying it to the Beale ciphers no not 244 00:13:08,590 --> 00:13:04,910 at that time the bill papers came a 245 00:13:11,410 --> 00:13:08,600 little bit later and on the term the 246 00:13:13,690 --> 00:13:11,420 term hidden in plain sight is good for 247 00:13:17,050 --> 00:13:13,700 steganography because something is 248 00:13:19,420 --> 00:13:17,060 hidden wow it's not really viewed but 249 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:19,430 it's hidden right before you and one 250 00:13:24,310 --> 00:13:22,010 does not even know that it exists until 251 00:13:27,790 --> 00:13:24,320 something triggers the mind to see it oh 252 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:27,800 that's right that's right yeah I see 253 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:30,650 that happening a lot and you know and 254 00:13:35,740 --> 00:13:33,530 even talked about in ancient texts and 255 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:35,750 things about you know for those who I've 256 00:13:42,490 --> 00:13:39,410 eyes to see you know there it is it's 257 00:13:44,740 --> 00:13:42,500 basically it's laid out you know for you 258 00:13:47,290 --> 00:13:44,750 to see but but you know either you see 259 00:13:50,910 --> 00:13:47,300 it or you don't see it but you know so 260 00:13:54,820 --> 00:13:50,920 you developed a way to start recognizing 261 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:54,830 that there were hidden messages yes in 262 00:13:59,980 --> 00:13:57,410 studying the sword of the coin as I 263 00:14:02,590 --> 00:13:59,990 started to learn that there there seemed 264 00:14:05,050 --> 00:14:02,600 to be patterns here that we're teaching 265 00:14:09,220 --> 00:14:05,060 me with these two items as I studied 266 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:09,230 them objectively hmm soon in getting an 267 00:14:16,990 --> 00:14:13,850 intuitive feeling I I linked to the 268 00:14:19,210 --> 00:14:17,000 connection to Ralph Waldo Emerson and 269 00:14:21,670 --> 00:14:19,220 and that seems like quite a jump at this 270 00:14:25,510 --> 00:14:21,680 point but it's but it's it is spelled 271 00:14:29,380 --> 00:14:25,520 out plainly in my book once I learned 272 00:14:31,900 --> 00:14:29,390 about Ralph Waldo Emerson I learned that 273 00:14:34,450 --> 00:14:31,910 he was the father of intuition and and 274 00:14:38,530 --> 00:14:34,460 this was very curious to me 275 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:38,540 hmm and later as I studied the the sword 276 00:14:45,610 --> 00:14:40,970 and the coin it appeared to me that that 277 00:14:48,180 --> 00:14:45,620 hidden wealth was a common theme in the 278 00:14:51,420 --> 00:14:48,190 breakdown or the hidden message within 279 00:14:55,030 --> 00:14:51,430 what could be seen from the coin itself 280 00:14:57,780 --> 00:14:55,040 almost like the Holy Grail almost like 281 00:15:00,280 --> 00:14:57,790 something special hidden within this 282 00:15:02,530 --> 00:15:00,290 something alpha my something different 283 00:15:06,940 --> 00:15:02,540 something common made special here in 284 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:06,950 this coin now is that coin is it is that 285 00:15:11,860 --> 00:15:09,710 available to see in your book are there 286 00:15:14,020 --> 00:15:11,870 photographs of it yes there are 287 00:15:16,930 --> 00:15:14,030 photographs in the book unfortunately 288 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:16,940 the new book is black and white but I do 289 00:15:25,630 --> 00:15:19,330 have the e-book yet that it's available 290 00:15:29,710 --> 00:15:25,640 that can be seen online if I'm contacted 291 00:15:33,580 --> 00:15:29,720 I can I can pass on the e-book of the 292 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:33,590 color photographs oh now where can we 293 00:15:38,650 --> 00:15:36,530 find your book online if you know people 294 00:15:41,590 --> 00:15:38,660 want to be scrolling and looking at it 295 00:15:44,110 --> 00:15:41,600 now while we're talking if you could 296 00:15:46,420 --> 00:15:44,120 just give the website out where we can 297 00:15:50,740 --> 00:15:46,430 actually find it they can order I know I 298 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:50,750 looked up your book today or a couple of 299 00:15:54,670 --> 00:15:52,850 days ago on amazon and and you're able 300 00:15:57,460 --> 00:15:54,680 to actually look inside the book and and 301 00:16:00,280 --> 00:15:57,470 see some of the contents and I didn't 302 00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:00,290 know if I didn't see the picture of the 303 00:16:04,900 --> 00:16:02,720 of the coin but that would be really 304 00:16:06,460 --> 00:16:04,910 good I did i do think i saw a picture of 305 00:16:09,310 --> 00:16:06,470 the sword though maybe that was on your 306 00:16:13,180 --> 00:16:09,320 Facebook page possibly know you probably 307 00:16:16,180 --> 00:16:13,190 saw it in the book Rene oh I just passed 308 00:16:17,770 --> 00:16:16,190 the sword picture is the coin and you 309 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:17,780 were probably looking at the colored 310 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:20,210 book which is quite expensive before it 311 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:23,930 went out of print and and Portland all 312 00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:26,810 was responsible for helping me republish 313 00:16:38,970 --> 00:16:29,600 this book with a different cover and to 314 00:16:48,220 --> 00:16:38,980 order this book is ww create acecomm 315 00:16:50,140 --> 00:16:48,230 forward slash 554 1639 that's the web 316 00:16:53,170 --> 00:16:50,150 like that will get you to the page that 317 00:16:55,420 --> 00:16:53,180 you can order the book also you know if 318 00:16:56,710 --> 00:16:55,430 anybody has a problem you know finding 319 00:16:59,710 --> 00:16:56,720 that if you're trying to order that book 320 00:17:03,100 --> 00:16:59,720 later on just shoot me an email or a 321 00:17:04,420 --> 00:17:03,110 facebook message or email the station 322 00:17:06,610 --> 00:17:04,430 and they'll get the email to me and 323 00:17:09,190 --> 00:17:06,620 we'll make sure that you you find the 324 00:17:11,710 --> 00:17:09,200 location now just to backtrack a little 325 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:11,720 bit in case people may not know what the 326 00:17:19,570 --> 00:17:14,510 Beale treasure is or what it may purport 327 00:17:21,670 --> 00:17:19,580 to be is you know we're looking at what 328 00:17:23,290 --> 00:17:21,680 could possibly be you know the the 329 00:17:26,890 --> 00:17:23,300 so-called treasure of the Knights 330 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:26,900 Templar which I'm assuming it includes 331 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:28,610 you know treasures from the Temple of 332 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:32,450 Solomon possibly yes the the Knights 333 00:17:41,620 --> 00:17:38,810 Templar treasure we we have Oak Island 334 00:17:43,620 --> 00:17:41,630 and Oak Island purports to have a 335 00:17:47,470 --> 00:17:43,630 Knights Templar treasure hidden and 336 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:47,480 treasures of antiquity documents objects 337 00:17:54,580 --> 00:17:51,010 and so on and so forth I am suggesting 338 00:17:58,120 --> 00:17:54,590 my research points to another small 339 00:18:01,000 --> 00:17:58,130 island in the bay of fundy which is not 340 00:18:05,380 --> 00:18:01,010 too far away from Oak Island that were 341 00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:05,390 led to buy the first code in the Beale 342 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:10,160 cipher in the Beale papers story and I 343 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:14,570 have to two bits of research that lead 344 00:18:20,110 --> 00:18:17,810 to this particular small island with 345 00:18:23,170 --> 00:18:20,120 some support that something is there 346 00:18:26,470 --> 00:18:23,180 from an interview with two Freemasons 347 00:18:28,510 --> 00:18:26,480 about two years ago oh wow you know 348 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:28,520 let's take a quick break can if you 349 00:18:33,550 --> 00:18:31,210 don't mind and when we come back you can 350 00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:33,560 you can go ahead and give us some more 351 00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:35,120 information on that because that sounds 352 00:18:40,270 --> 00:18:37,760 like a really interesting bit right 353 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:40,280 there we'll be right back we're talking 354 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:42,050 with Kenneth bellman we're talking about 355 00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:44,570 the deal of treasure and his book that's 356 00:18:49,870 --> 00:18:46,880 out right now that you can actually buy 357 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:49,880 and read so hang on hang in there with 358 00:18:54,370 --> 00:18:52,850 us and we will be right back welcome 359 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:54,380 back to night vision radio if you're 360 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:55,450 just tuning in 361 00:19:00,330 --> 00:18:57,730 we are talking with Kenneth bellman 362 00:19:03,450 --> 00:19:00,340 about the field treasure and his book 363 00:19:06,210 --> 00:19:03,460 that he has written about that also a 364 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:06,220 project that he has it's coming up we're 365 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:09,010 going to talk about that because I know 366 00:19:14,279 --> 00:19:11,769 that's really heavy on his mind and he's 367 00:19:15,870 --> 00:19:14,289 looking for some assistance in this 368 00:19:17,789 --> 00:19:15,880 project there might be some interested 369 00:19:19,049 --> 00:19:17,799 parties out there listening so we'll 370 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:19,059 talk about that a little bit more but 371 00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:21,130 back to the Beale treasure and the bill 372 00:19:30,269 --> 00:19:25,360 papers for those who may not know what 373 00:19:34,019 --> 00:19:30,279 were the Beale papers the Beale papers 374 00:19:39,450 --> 00:19:34,029 is a story written by an author that is 375 00:19:43,529 --> 00:19:39,460 unidentified but we we suspect I suspect 376 00:19:47,940 --> 00:19:43,539 and and and my project redknee suspects 377 00:19:50,129 --> 00:19:47,950 that Edgar Allan Poe inspired and or 378 00:19:55,529 --> 00:19:50,139 possibly even assisted in some way in 379 00:19:57,810 --> 00:19:55,539 preparing the Beale papers story the 380 00:20:02,100 --> 00:19:57,820 story was copyrighted in eighteen eighty 381 00:20:05,399 --> 00:20:02,110 five but I can all but prove that Edgar 382 00:20:08,730 --> 00:20:05,409 Allan Poe's tale the gold-bug intimates 383 00:20:12,060 --> 00:20:08,740 or hints at the upcoming Beale paper 384 00:20:16,350 --> 00:20:12,070 story by certain phrases and comments in 385 00:20:18,899 --> 00:20:16,360 one paragraph of the the tail the 386 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:18,909 gold-bug which was written in 1841 by 387 00:20:29,159 --> 00:20:25,809 Edgar Allan Poe some of this research 388 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:29,169 I've heard on the internet and then one 389 00:20:38,340 --> 00:20:33,010 piece of this paragraph i decoded myself 390 00:20:41,250 --> 00:20:38,350 and and further help to support with 391 00:20:44,129 --> 00:20:41,260 evidentiary value that edgar allan poe 392 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:44,139 either knew of the Beale papers to be 393 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:47,970 inspired or helped write them himself 394 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:52,210 there i would like to mention real quick 395 00:21:01,250 --> 00:20:57,570 here that the the Beale k.com 396 00:21:06,769 --> 00:21:01,260 spearheaded by Roy Dallas is another 397 00:21:08,749 --> 00:21:06,779 major work by Roy Dallas himself and 398 00:21:12,180 --> 00:21:08,759 although 399 00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:12,190 the majority of information that Roy 400 00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:17,039 Dallas and I have talked about which is 401 00:21:25,739 --> 00:21:23,110 confidential and we I would like to turn 402 00:21:33,629 --> 00:21:25,749 the the listeners on to his website 403 00:21:36,509 --> 00:21:33,639 which is www have information is 404 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:36,519 self-explanatory so back to poll real 405 00:21:42,180 --> 00:21:40,210 quick he he suggested possibly 406 00:21:44,850 --> 00:21:42,190 historically that the bill papers would 407 00:21:51,149 --> 00:21:44,860 come along at some time during his 408 00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:51,159 lifetime and and and in 18-49 supposedly 409 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:53,919 he died well there's question about 410 00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:55,690 whether he actually died or not or 411 00:22:04,590 --> 00:21:58,690 whether his murder was faked buying off 412 00:22:07,460 --> 00:22:04,600 and possibly he went to France there's a 413 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:07,470 good bit under in this project that 414 00:22:12,930 --> 00:22:10,809 suggests this to be the case which means 415 00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:12,940 he was alive to see the Beale papers 416 00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:16,559 come to fruition you know and that's why 417 00:22:24,749 --> 00:22:20,799 you know I felt that there was an RLC a 418 00:22:29,399 --> 00:22:24,759 Renly Chateau connection to or could be 419 00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:29,409 because of some emerging information you 420 00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:31,679 know the court obviously knows about 421 00:22:37,619 --> 00:22:34,720 about Edgar Allan Poe's possible 422 00:22:40,289 --> 00:22:37,629 connection in France and in into the 423 00:22:42,869 --> 00:22:40,299 realm of Chateau area it's really wild 424 00:22:44,970 --> 00:22:42,879 and I told court date you know when I 425 00:22:47,399 --> 00:22:44,980 was a little girl you know my mother 426 00:22:49,859 --> 00:22:47,409 used to read to us all the time and what 427 00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:49,869 did she read she read Edgar Allan Poe to 428 00:22:55,639 --> 00:22:53,679 us I could I I could quote the Raven you 429 00:22:58,649 --> 00:22:55,649 know when I was a little bitty girl and 430 00:23:00,269 --> 00:22:58,659 it was dull it was the poetry though not 431 00:23:04,169 --> 00:23:00,279 really the story so I wasn't familiar 432 00:23:06,930 --> 00:23:04,179 with the story the gold-bug until court 433 00:23:10,109 --> 00:23:06,940 actually sent it to me recently and just 434 00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:10,119 FYI i sent that story over to Henry 435 00:23:16,739 --> 00:23:14,320 Lincoln who lives over of course near 436 00:23:19,409 --> 00:23:16,749 rennes-le-chateau in Rennes lebon France 437 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:19,419 he's the author of Holy Blood Holy Grail 438 00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:22,240 and many subsequent books sense 439 00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:25,360 and he got a real kick out of that story 440 00:23:30,540 --> 00:23:28,750 he really liked it and you know I just 441 00:23:33,540 --> 00:23:30,550 feel like there's something going on 442 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:33,550 with Edgar Allan Poe and I wanted to ask 443 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:35,650 you about the cover of your book with 444 00:23:42,180 --> 00:23:39,130 the spider on it now did you take the 445 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:42,190 spider because of the of the gold-bug 446 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:45,370 story because the bug was a tarantula in 447 00:23:53,450 --> 00:23:50,410 the story uh almost correct the cover 448 00:23:56,820 --> 00:23:53,460 your speaking of is on the original 449 00:23:59,820 --> 00:23:56,830 publication the cover changed when the 450 00:24:01,680 --> 00:23:59,830 new publication came out the website 451 00:24:05,580 --> 00:24:01,690 that I gave for ordering the ten-dollar 452 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:05,590 book night and cover now but to answer 453 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:11,170 your question about the spider the real 454 00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:14,650 quick there are in in my estimation 455 00:24:18,990 --> 00:24:16,990 there are three methodologies in the 456 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:19,000 Beale papers of hiding secret 457 00:24:25,140 --> 00:24:22,570 information two of them I discovered and 458 00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:25,150 the other one was discovered by Roy 459 00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:28,809 Dallas and his website and that's all I 460 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:31,360 can really say right now under 461 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:36,850 confidentiality concern but the the one 462 00:24:44,610 --> 00:24:39,970 methodology was the Beale code number 463 00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:44,620 one in the first 16 numbers which is a 464 00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:48,480 cryptogram and hidden in Reverse i 465 00:24:59,040 --> 00:24:52,270 deciphered the first 16 numbers to read 466 00:25:03,600 --> 00:24:59,050 air femme du redd knee and air means to 467 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:03,610 oh yes go ahead go ahead go ahead s air 468 00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:11,770 means to dig or plow or uncover in the 469 00:25:24,419 --> 00:25:19,600 Fen an unusual marshy spot do right at a 470 00:25:27,330 --> 00:25:24,429 location read me well I understood the 471 00:25:31,980 --> 00:25:27,340 first three words but read nice timing 472 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:31,990 me what was that well a little bit of 473 00:25:35,820 --> 00:25:34,809 research I realized that the Mexican red 474 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:35,830 knee tarantula 475 00:25:43,649 --> 00:25:41,010 spider and how could that come into play 476 00:25:46,169 --> 00:25:43,659 well through the research and this is 477 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:46,179 well spelled out in my book to take you 478 00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:48,730 through the all the multiple paths that 479 00:25:55,169 --> 00:25:52,720 I went through if you look at Edgar 480 00:25:58,799 --> 00:25:55,179 Allan Poe's tale the gold bugs in the 481 00:26:03,720 --> 00:25:58,809 very first sentence you have what ho 482 00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:03,730 what ho this man is dancing mad he hath 483 00:26:11,419 --> 00:26:07,990 been bitten by the tarantula it hit me 484 00:26:14,970 --> 00:26:11,429 all of a sudden we're to digger plow 485 00:26:17,340 --> 00:26:14,980 directly in this tale there's something 486 00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:17,350 hidden in the gold-bug and if you want 487 00:26:22,769 --> 00:26:20,049 to know what the answer is grab my book 488 00:26:25,769 --> 00:26:22,779 and and understand that what is hidden 489 00:26:28,049 --> 00:26:25,779 in the gold-bug has been deciphered and 490 00:26:30,060 --> 00:26:28,059 that's what led me to a particular 491 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:30,070 beautiful mansion in the city of 492 00:26:38,210 --> 00:26:34,450 philadelphia in pennsylvania and in that 493 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:38,220 mansion is hidden it is suspected a 494 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:42,010 great deal of gold some of which were 495 00:26:49,620 --> 00:26:45,570 coins brought to america from scotland 496 00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:49,630 by @one Captain John Macpherson who 497 00:26:55,139 --> 00:26:53,230 worked to build that mansion now that 498 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:55,149 was methodology number one in the Beale 499 00:27:02,340 --> 00:26:58,450 papers methodology number two we led to 500 00:27:08,639 --> 00:27:02,350 in before the break-in bill code number 501 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:08,649 one the entirety of all the numbers with 502 00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:11,529 some help by an individual in California 503 00:27:22,860 --> 00:27:18,399 who is a former employee of the NSA used 504 00:27:25,620 --> 00:27:22,870 letter frequency to break down into a 505 00:27:29,549 --> 00:27:25,630 meaning a message out of Beale code 506 00:27:33,659 --> 00:27:29,559 number one with another gentleman from 507 00:27:39,379 --> 00:27:33,669 Canada and I use that break down and 508 00:27:42,509 --> 00:27:39,389 tweaked it and made it into an 509 00:27:46,529 --> 00:27:42,519 understandable reading from the jargon 510 00:27:48,899 --> 00:27:46,539 that came out of the cryptogram from 511 00:27:49,710 --> 00:27:48,909 that jargon I was led to a small island 512 00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:49,720 in the bay 513 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:52,480 have fun day I can get into more detail 514 00:27:57,900 --> 00:27:56,050 about this island if we make further 515 00:28:01,070 --> 00:27:57,910 contact and I can get more in depth 516 00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:01,080 through lecture to interested parties 517 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:03,760 this small island is today a bird 518 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:07,210 sanctuary but it's worth it has been 519 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:10,090 manned by someone since the early 1800s 520 00:28:16,350 --> 00:28:12,730 it's probably government property isn't 521 00:28:19,530 --> 00:28:16,360 it well it is really owned by neither 522 00:28:23,340 --> 00:28:19,540 the United States nor Canada but Canada 523 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:23,350 claims it and I sort of I sort of 524 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:27,610 jokingly say that the only thing not 525 00:28:36,390 --> 00:28:33,970 there are the warships the there's 526 00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:36,400 something hidden there and I mentioned 527 00:28:40,590 --> 00:28:38,320 that there was an interview between two 528 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:40,600 Freemasons and I will not identify them 529 00:28:49,860 --> 00:28:45,250 in this broadcast how about in the book 530 00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:49,870 are not in the book but in lecture in 531 00:28:55,140 --> 00:28:53,440 lecture I can talk more about this but 532 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:55,150 it has been confirmed that there is 533 00:28:59,700 --> 00:28:57,490 something hidden there and there's 534 00:29:04,170 --> 00:28:59,710 evidence to understand from these two 535 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:04,180 men why wow you know that one of the 536 00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:07,450 reasons another reason that I saw or 537 00:29:12,780 --> 00:29:09,910 thought that there might be a Renly 538 00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:12,790 château connection is because of the 539 00:29:20,090 --> 00:29:17,110 spider in the you know the tarantula 540 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:20,100 because there is a spider symbolism 541 00:29:26,370 --> 00:29:23,290 found there particularly on the 542 00:29:29,550 --> 00:29:26,380 tombstone of Murray deneg doubles who 543 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:29,560 was the Dame dot pool or the name of a 544 00:29:38,130 --> 00:29:34,330 pool and of Blanche fort and her 545 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:38,140 tombstone was defaced early in the 20th 546 00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:41,650 century by the priest Sonya who came to 547 00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:43,840 the village and then suddenly became 548 00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:45,910 fabulously wealthy no one could figure 549 00:29:52,410 --> 00:29:49,030 out why and but it was said that he had 550 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:52,420 a great secret that he had discovered 551 00:29:56,509 --> 00:29:54,370 either a great secret or a great 552 00:29:59,810 --> 00:29:56,519 treasure or both 553 00:30:03,409 --> 00:29:59,820 and it's funny that he you know took a 554 00:30:04,430 --> 00:30:03,419 pickaxe to the tombstone and defaced it 555 00:30:08,869 --> 00:30:04,440 but of course there were already 556 00:30:11,389 --> 00:30:08,879 pictures of it and there is a spider at 557 00:30:14,060 --> 00:30:11,399 the bottom a spider similar it looks 558 00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:14,070 like a tarantula that's very interesting 559 00:30:18,019 --> 00:30:16,289 Renee that is awkward I'll send you that 560 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:18,029 I'll send you that picture i'll post it 561 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:21,289 in the chat room now but i will also 562 00:30:26,629 --> 00:30:24,690 send it to you as well by email you have 563 00:30:31,159 --> 00:30:26,639 to understand that the spider is a 564 00:30:34,069 --> 00:30:31,169 symbol of wisdom mmm and this could be 565 00:30:35,779 --> 00:30:34,079 the reason why that if there's a 566 00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:35,789 connection with the spider on that 567 00:30:43,399 --> 00:30:40,529 tombstone and the spider alluded to by 568 00:30:47,930 --> 00:30:43,409 we think now Edgar Allan Poe perhaps had 569 00:30:50,749 --> 00:30:47,940 a hand in creating the red knee alluding 570 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:50,759 to the tarantula alluding to the 571 00:30:57,379 --> 00:30:54,570 gold-bug alluding to a secret spot in 572 00:31:02,649 --> 00:30:57,389 the gold-bug and this secret spot is 573 00:31:05,719 --> 00:31:02,659 plainly deciphered in my book Wow and 574 00:31:08,779 --> 00:31:05,729 that leads to the mansion so there's 575 00:31:12,049 --> 00:31:08,789 methodology number two in the Beale 576 00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:12,059 papers and whatnot and methodology 577 00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:14,609 number three I sort of cut that off 578 00:31:20,060 --> 00:31:17,369 because I want to introduce Troy Dallas 579 00:31:22,909 --> 00:31:20,070 and his work through his webpage but we 580 00:31:28,729 --> 00:31:22,919 are very good friends and and I cannot 581 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:28,739 uh mistrust a confidentiality sure oh I 582 00:31:39,459 --> 00:31:33,570 did this I i think his work is very 583 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:39,469 promising and we'll leave it at that mmm 584 00:31:45,469 --> 00:31:42,570 doh now do you have any other questions 585 00:31:48,229 --> 00:31:45,479 about the the small island in the bay of 586 00:31:52,579 --> 00:31:48,239 fundy because that island is up there 587 00:31:57,409 --> 00:31:52,589 very near perhaps even 366 kilometers 588 00:31:59,209 --> 00:31:57,419 from Oak Island and if you might recall 589 00:32:01,399 --> 00:31:59,219 it's going to be what I was going to ask 590 00:32:04,999 --> 00:32:01,409 was you know if Canada's claiming it how 591 00:32:08,229 --> 00:32:05,009 close is it to Oak Island it is in my 592 00:32:10,340 --> 00:32:08,239 estimation through my research I am 593 00:32:12,620 --> 00:32:10,350 reporting 360 594 00:32:18,049 --> 00:32:12,630 six kilometers around the Cape of Nova 595 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:18,059 Scotia hmm I'll southwest and if you'll 596 00:32:25,010 --> 00:32:22,650 know 366 was the same number that was 597 00:32:28,850 --> 00:32:25,020 brought into the Oak Island curse of Oak 598 00:32:34,190 --> 00:32:28,860 Island by Alan Butler from Scotland who 599 00:32:37,159 --> 00:32:34,200 about 366 megalithic yards from 10x the 600 00:32:39,380 --> 00:32:37,169 money pit to a particular location on 601 00:32:43,820 --> 00:32:39,390 the island well I've been in 602 00:32:46,909 --> 00:32:43,830 communication with Alan Butler maybe 603 00:32:50,810 --> 00:32:46,919 we've had Alan on I I got to meet Alan 604 00:32:52,730 --> 00:32:50,820 in Glastonbury a couple years ago and he 605 00:32:54,649 --> 00:32:52,740 he's been on the show now he hasn't been 606 00:32:56,270 --> 00:32:54,659 on since we've been here inception radio 607 00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:56,280 I'm going to have to get hold of him and 608 00:33:02,600 --> 00:32:59,760 have him back on again but yeah is he 609 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:02,610 considering what you're saying what was 610 00:33:07,220 --> 00:33:05,250 that really is he now considering what 611 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:07,230 you're saying with relationship to this 612 00:33:12,830 --> 00:33:11,130 island and oak island he did consider 613 00:33:16,159 --> 00:33:12,840 that and in our community male 614 00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:16,169 communication 68 months ago or whenever 615 00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:21,720 it was uh he he confirmed that there is 616 00:33:29,659 --> 00:33:24,960 something very interested in the claim 617 00:33:34,940 --> 00:33:29,669 that 366 kilometers maybe actually what 618 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:34,950 is to be identified mmm movement to this 619 00:33:41,630 --> 00:33:37,890 small island which is very curious in 620 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:41,640 the middle of the bay of fundy up by 621 00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:47,490 main and pence in this Southwest just a 622 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:49,230 little south west of grand main an 623 00:33:57,169 --> 00:33:54,210 island hmm that the research was 624 00:34:01,539 --> 00:33:57,179 mathematically constructed to arrive at 625 00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:04,760 bye-bye see around the Cape of Nova 626 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:07,679 Scotia and he found that to be quite 627 00:34:12,590 --> 00:34:10,050 interesting my research and I haven't 628 00:34:14,810 --> 00:34:12,600 talked to him recently and I did attempt 629 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:14,820 to talk to him again and he did not 630 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:17,970 return my email so he may be under 631 00:34:22,590 --> 00:34:20,450 confidentiality through the Oak Island 632 00:34:25,620 --> 00:34:22,600 showings and what 633 00:34:29,770 --> 00:34:25,630 possible yeah possibility possibility 634 00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:29,780 now I know that you know you talked 635 00:34:36,700 --> 00:34:32,510 about you no hidden meanings and in 636 00:34:38,850 --> 00:34:36,710 writings and you even mentioned earlier 637 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:38,860 to me that there was something about 638 00:34:44,380 --> 00:34:41,570 some Shakespeare writings that you can 639 00:34:48,610 --> 00:34:44,390 apply this method to and it's actually 640 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:48,620 yielding some different messages yes the 641 00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:51,530 same form of steganography the same 642 00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:55,310 literary steganography and basically 643 00:35:00,880 --> 00:34:58,610 what you have is take the first sonic 644 00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:00,890 for instance and you'll have to research 645 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:03,110 and call up the silence on on the 646 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:05,650 internet and look it's not at number one 647 00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:08,210 actually the wording is quite strange 648 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:10,160 and it's hard to understand really what 649 00:35:14,860 --> 00:35:13,040 they're talking about and and when I see 650 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:14,870 that kind of writing I suspect right 651 00:35:21,730 --> 00:35:17,930 away that it's a pleasure it's a form of 652 00:35:25,390 --> 00:35:21,740 a story within words it's like stuffing 653 00:35:27,310 --> 00:35:25,400 a bunch of words of secret in a shoe so 654 00:35:29,230 --> 00:35:27,320 that when somebody comes into the room 655 00:35:31,780 --> 00:35:29,240 they see the shoe but they don't 656 00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:31,790 understand the secret words inside the 657 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:34,100 shoe so when you apply literary 658 00:35:38,890 --> 00:35:36,050 steganography which is using a 659 00:35:41,470 --> 00:35:38,900 dictionary you come up with a different 660 00:35:43,540 --> 00:35:41,480 writing altogether and this is how they 661 00:35:47,050 --> 00:35:43,550 hid these messages with the pressure 662 00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:47,060 code in literary steganography now I 663 00:35:52,810 --> 00:35:51,200 could anybody the persona I won't read 664 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:52,820 that here but would you like me to read 665 00:35:57,700 --> 00:35:55,040 the breakdown of what the first sign it 666 00:36:00,130 --> 00:35:57,710 says yeah can you give us an example of 667 00:36:03,070 --> 00:36:00,140 what you mean yes with a specific 668 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:03,080 Shakespeare work okay I'll read the 669 00:36:07,980 --> 00:36:05,570 first two sentences in the assignment 670 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:07,990 itself then I'll read the entire 671 00:36:14,170 --> 00:36:10,730 breakdown which what's this on it what 672 00:36:17,860 --> 00:36:14,180 what what is from bonnet number one here 673 00:36:21,490 --> 00:36:17,870 we go from fairest creatures we desire 674 00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:21,500 increase that thereby beauties rose 675 00:36:29,830 --> 00:36:26,150 might never die those words mean 676 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:29,840 something else using a common dictionary 677 00:36:35,830 --> 00:36:33,050 and placing the definitions of each word 678 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:35,840 in line 679 00:36:41,250 --> 00:36:37,850 you come up with a different meaning 680 00:36:44,740 --> 00:36:41,260 here's the breakdown of the first summit 681 00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:44,750 by reason of most promising human beings 682 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:47,510 are wish to become greater those nearby 683 00:36:55,810 --> 00:36:51,770 qualities rise power to dominate not 684 00:36:59,700 --> 00:36:55,820 ever to cease to exist yet to the same 685 00:37:02,860 --> 00:36:59,710 degree by that one who slashes shall 686 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:02,870 through the agency of a definite portion 687 00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:07,490 of duration died he of delicate quality 688 00:37:14,250 --> 00:37:10,640 who takes or displays the qualities of 689 00:37:18,250 --> 00:37:14,260 some forerunner they show visibly him 690 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:18,260 one who is remembered that you cause to 691 00:37:24,570 --> 00:37:21,050 draw together near your belonging 692 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:24,580 quick-witted attendance observations 693 00:37:30,940 --> 00:37:27,290 nourish your mental or spiritual 694 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:30,950 insights our door from an individual 695 00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:33,530 considered as the subject of his own 696 00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:36,320 consciousness and of real worth and 697 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:40,640 importance what whatever sustains or 698 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:43,130 heightens emotions contributes to 699 00:37:48,670 --> 00:37:45,770 improvement any dearth to a situation to 700 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:48,680 which a plentiful or overflowing supply 701 00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:53,450 exists you your enemy aiming at your 702 00:37:59,170 --> 00:37:55,750 gentle and winning qualities any 703 00:38:02,530 --> 00:37:59,180 attribute more than sufficiently causing 704 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:02,540 mental or physical suffering I'll end 705 00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:04,850 there but that was half of it these 706 00:38:10,210 --> 00:38:07,280 sonnets three of them I have decoded are 707 00:38:13,870 --> 00:38:10,220 in the book that I'm offering for sale 708 00:38:17,890 --> 00:38:13,880 in are they it sounds like spiritual 709 00:38:21,970 --> 00:38:17,900 teachings well in an audio is there 710 00:38:25,930 --> 00:38:21,980 something in it about immortality am I 711 00:38:28,750 --> 00:38:25,940 getting that right yes yeah because it 712 00:38:30,550 --> 00:38:28,760 seems like at the heart of a lot of 713 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:30,560 these mysteries and I was talking with 714 00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:33,770 with my friend Arthur Gloria Amendola 715 00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:36,110 today we talked constantly we research a 716 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:38,630 lot together and we were talking about 717 00:38:45,310 --> 00:38:40,490 it seems like at the heart of a lot of 718 00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:45,320 these secrets may lie this quest for 719 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:49,310 immortality and secrets that 720 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:52,370 you know might or at least purport to 721 00:39:00,070 --> 00:38:56,210 offer that well whether you're right 722 00:39:02,740 --> 00:39:00,080 Renee these people 200 300 400 years ago 723 00:39:05,470 --> 00:39:02,750 this was the way their their name could 724 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:05,480 live forever their writings were alive 725 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:08,450 with pecheur in other words they wrote 726 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:10,130 something but there was something of 727 00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:12,770 real meaning to them hidden behind the 728 00:39:20,830 --> 00:39:18,190 veil and what I just read to you was a 729 00:39:25,090 --> 00:39:20,840 person who i believe is edward de vere 730 00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:25,100 the 17th Earl of Oxford wrote the saunas 731 00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:28,160 as opposed to the common thought of 732 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:30,710 shakespeare william shakespeare did not 733 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:34,010 write these sonnets well I have her I of 734 00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:35,930 course we've heard that it could have 735 00:39:43,090 --> 00:39:39,710 been Francis Bacon but I have heard that 736 00:39:45,730 --> 00:39:43,100 it was severe in fact we had a woman on 737 00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:45,740 the show I'm sorry I can't remember her 738 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:48,320 name but she wrote a book about that 739 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:52,610 very thing and you know the de Vere is 740 00:40:02,020 --> 00:39:56,410 the beers are still a pretty big name 741 00:40:07,570 --> 00:40:02,030 and it's interesting why would he have 742 00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:07,580 disguised his identity uh because it was 743 00:40:11,890 --> 00:40:09,710 very politically incorrect probably to 744 00:40:16,330 --> 00:40:11,900 say the things he wanted to say either 745 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:16,340 in the open or using the pressure would 746 00:40:21,340 --> 00:40:18,650 it be also true that a person from an 747 00:40:24,340 --> 00:40:21,350 aristocratic background like that it 748 00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:24,350 would have been seen as sort of a you 749 00:40:30,850 --> 00:40:27,200 know below or beneath a person of that 750 00:40:33,310 --> 00:40:30,860 status to be writing sonnets and plays 751 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:33,320 and in getting involved in show business 752 00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:37,490 basically it is ability oh sure mr. I 753 00:40:45,790 --> 00:40:39,710 think being a poet in those days was not 754 00:40:48,550 --> 00:40:45,800 highly appreciated valued yeah yeah and 755 00:40:55,810 --> 00:40:48,560 and there's one point I was going to say 756 00:40:58,540 --> 00:40:55,820 I'm going to slip my mind here yeah the 757 00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:58,550 these these people were placing to 758 00:41:05,090 --> 00:41:01,760 posterity something hidden 759 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:05,100 something common made special so these 760 00:41:10,130 --> 00:41:07,890 writings were optimized that is the 761 00:41:13,130 --> 00:41:10,140 definition of alchemy something common 762 00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:13,140 made special and and it made them feel 763 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:16,320 good in their lifetime as they live to 764 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:18,090 know that something was hidden for the 765 00:41:22,970 --> 00:41:20,490 future and this is exactly what Ralph 766 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:22,980 Waldo Emerson did with his treasure hunt 767 00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:27,090 for the future he possessed the sword 768 00:41:32,330 --> 00:41:29,430 and the coin there were 13 people that 769 00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:32,340 possess this up until my time I know who 770 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:34,710 they were and and I possess them 771 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:39,210 currently mmm I can listen any how did 772 00:41:45,380 --> 00:41:43,290 they come to be in the Attic okay it 773 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:45,390 came to be in my attic through my 774 00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:48,650 grandfather my mother's father who 775 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:50,910 shipped them from Bethlehem Pennsylvania 776 00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:53,850 in that trunk I possessed the trunk and 777 00:41:59,450 --> 00:41:56,400 its marked Bethlehem Pennsylvania all 778 00:42:01,820 --> 00:41:59,460 everything is all the evidence is here 779 00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:01,830 do you know how he came into possession 780 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:07,230 of those items uh today yes I do but he 781 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:09,930 didn't officially during the initial 782 00:42:15,770 --> 00:42:13,770 objective research I had no clue what 783 00:42:19,220 --> 00:42:15,780 this sword was who they came from other 784 00:42:21,950 --> 00:42:19,230 than my grandfather and and and all I 785 00:42:24,260 --> 00:42:21,960 had was my mother said my father sent 786 00:42:26,420 --> 00:42:24,270 these two Auburn from from Pennsylvania 787 00:42:28,730 --> 00:42:26,430 and and and she didn't know anything 788 00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:28,740 about them of course my father this 789 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:31,110 wasn't his side of the family he was of 790 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:34,410 no help with this so at that time but 791 00:42:42,110 --> 00:42:39,570 today let me just say this the the sword 792 00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:42,120 originally and this is through a great 793 00:42:48,650 --> 00:42:44,910 deal of research and I'm looking right 794 00:42:50,890 --> 00:42:48,660 now in project red need down at about 63 795 00:42:54,340 --> 00:42:50,900 inch binders of documents of material 796 00:42:57,790 --> 00:42:54,350 over twenty two year period oh goodness 797 00:43:02,300 --> 00:42:57,800 this sword originally belonged to one 798 00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:02,310 Maurice spend yoski the first Hungarian 799 00:43:09,890 --> 00:43:06,000 king of Madagascar oh no the kalash 800 00:43:13,340 --> 00:43:09,900 she's six he was a very good friend and 801 00:43:15,789 --> 00:43:13,350 a very good colleague with Benjamin 802 00:43:18,530 --> 00:43:15,799 Franklin still oh my god 803 00:43:21,650 --> 00:43:18,540 another r endless chateau connection you 804 00:43:25,250 --> 00:43:21,660 can go ahead yeah franklin had a 805 00:43:28,839 --> 00:43:25,260 grandnephew what jonathan williams jr 806 00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:28,849 the first superintendent of West Point 807 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:33,510 Jonathan Williams sister married a man 808 00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:37,290 by the name of Samuel Bradford Samuel 809 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:39,660 Bradford was a lifelong friend and 810 00:43:47,180 --> 00:43:42,210 mentor to guess ooh Ralph Waldo Emerson 811 00:43:52,910 --> 00:43:47,190 oh my gosh Ralph Waldo Emerson was very 812 00:43:59,329 --> 00:43:52,920 good friends with us I believe in Samuel 813 00:44:02,960 --> 00:43:59,339 Bradford who was the connect to Thomas 814 00:44:08,770 --> 00:44:02,970 Carlyle in England Thomas Carlyle in 815 00:44:13,930 --> 00:44:08,780 England knew Richard bogner the operatic 816 00:44:17,780 --> 00:44:13,940 injure oh my gosh and the Holy Grail guy 817 00:44:22,780 --> 00:44:17,790 good bottner do very well Friedrich 818 00:44:27,770 --> 00:44:22,790 Nietzsche oh my gosh Friedrich Nietzsche 819 00:44:31,010 --> 00:44:27,780 new another man through another man and 820 00:44:32,780 --> 00:44:31,020 that's where I must stop all right oh 821 00:44:35,150 --> 00:44:32,790 that's amazing well we're going to stop 822 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:35,160 right here for just a moment and take a 823 00:44:39,049 --> 00:44:37,290 quick break but we're going to be back 824 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:39,059 with Kenneth bellman and the Beale 825 00:44:42,740 --> 00:44:40,890 treasure and when we come back we're 826 00:44:46,010 --> 00:44:42,750 going to find out what ken is up to now 827 00:44:48,170 --> 00:44:46,020 and what he's trying to do and how you 828 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:48,180 might be able to help we'll be right 829 00:44:52,050 --> 00:44:49,650 back 830 00:44:54,540 --> 00:44:52,060 you're listening to night vision radio 831 00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:54,550 I'm your host Renee Barnett and tonight 832 00:44:58,680 --> 00:44:57,040 our special guest is Kenneth bellman 833 00:45:02,190 --> 00:44:58,690 he's talking about the Beale treasure 834 00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:02,200 and his book about it called national 835 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:06,190 treasure at red knee and it is available 836 00:45:12,620 --> 00:45:09,010 for you to purchase and and buying that 837 00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:12,630 will help Ken out with his research now 838 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:15,040 you've you've been on this now did you 839 00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:17,890 say for about 20 years about 22 years 840 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:23,440 Renee 22 years and 1994 in the spring 841 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:26,050 april of nineteen ninety-four now do you 842 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:29,610 ever have a hope of being able to 843 00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:36,010 actually excavate or go to that location 844 00:45:45,420 --> 00:45:41,110 and see what's there that'll ever happen 845 00:45:48,030 --> 00:45:45,430 I have gone there and requested twice 846 00:45:51,150 --> 00:45:48,040 I've been to the location several times 847 00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:51,160 to view it's a museum you pay five 848 00:45:57,180 --> 00:45:53,110 dollars you can go in the building at 849 00:46:02,540 --> 00:45:57,190 the mansion or walk around it or 850 00:46:05,550 --> 00:46:02,550 whatever and and the the the actual 851 00:46:08,130 --> 00:46:05,560 wealth that's suspected to be hidden in 852 00:46:11,010 --> 00:46:08,140 the building is would be accessible from 853 00:46:14,010 --> 00:46:11,020 the outside if one had a metal detector 854 00:46:15,780 --> 00:46:14,020 which is not allowed in fairmont park so 855 00:46:18,330 --> 00:46:15,790 don't even waste your time with that 856 00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:18,340 because i've tried twice and I've been 857 00:46:24,650 --> 00:46:21,040 denied twice and one of those denials 858 00:46:28,530 --> 00:46:24,660 was the man said that my proposal was 859 00:46:31,830 --> 00:46:28,540 inappropriate and that stymied me I said 860 00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:31,840 how can i how can an attempt to validate 861 00:46:37,470 --> 00:46:35,440 a national treasure within a building 862 00:46:41,580 --> 00:46:37,480 within the United States of America 863 00:46:44,010 --> 00:46:41,590 being inappropriate proposal well I 864 00:46:48,180 --> 00:46:44,020 never got an answer for that and that's 865 00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:48,190 where it stands hmm there now the museum 866 00:46:53,370 --> 00:46:51,040 what what is in the museum what there is 867 00:46:56,970 --> 00:46:53,380 some very old furniture from dating back 868 00:46:59,220 --> 00:46:56,980 to the 18th century and it is very 869 00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:59,230 beautiful building and of course we we 870 00:47:01,290 --> 00:47:00,880 would never want to damage the building 871 00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:01,300 that 872 00:47:05,940 --> 00:47:03,910 would be completely out of line and and 873 00:47:08,370 --> 00:47:05,950 there's only one way to do this and 874 00:47:12,540 --> 00:47:08,380 that's through proper channels if it's 875 00:47:15,170 --> 00:47:12,550 going to be done at all but I've known 876 00:47:17,810 --> 00:47:15,180 the location exactly where treasure 877 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:17,820 suspected to be hidden in this mansion 878 00:47:25,470 --> 00:47:22,570 for a great deal of time and I simply 879 00:47:28,430 --> 00:47:25,480 cannot search it it's a national 880 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:28,440 historical site or landmark and and 881 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:31,570 basically there are seven locations one 882 00:47:36,210 --> 00:47:33,970 of which is worked by Roy Dallas and the 883 00:47:38,490 --> 00:47:36,220 other six are locations that I have come 884 00:47:41,220 --> 00:47:38,500 to know that there could be something 885 00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:41,230 hidden and that comes all from the veal 886 00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:45,250 paper story and the board and the coin 887 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:47,440 research that I've done with project red 888 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:50,770 knee and what do you think is possibly 889 00:47:58,500 --> 00:47:55,450 in there lots of gold coins would there 890 00:48:00,840 --> 00:47:58,510 be you know as we said you know possibly 891 00:48:02,490 --> 00:48:00,850 the Ark of the Covenant maybe the great 892 00:48:06,570 --> 00:48:02,500 menorah I mean those are that's a pretty 893 00:48:08,940 --> 00:48:06,580 big item I get it the Ark of the 894 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:08,950 Covenant and the great and the great 895 00:48:14,250 --> 00:48:11,170 menorah would be items that might be 896 00:48:17,540 --> 00:48:14,260 found in a subterranean cavity perhaps 897 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:17,550 at this small island near Nova Scotia 898 00:48:28,380 --> 00:48:24,090 but in the coin purse the coins the qu o 899 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:28,390 ims the exterior ornate corners of the 900 00:48:37,140 --> 00:48:33,310 building is where hidden suspected a 901 00:48:39,630 --> 00:48:37,150 great deal of point and some of this 902 00:48:42,900 --> 00:48:39,640 coin could be french louis dee or gold 903 00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:42,910 pieces that were a part of the Jacobite 904 00:48:49,830 --> 00:48:46,510 rebellion in Scotland and 1745 and 905 00:48:52,050 --> 00:48:49,840 what's interesting is is the man who 906 00:48:54,180 --> 00:48:52,060 controlled the seventeen thousand eight 907 00:48:56,670 --> 00:48:54,190 hundred coins that came up missing in 908 00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:56,680 Scotland happened to be a first cousin 909 00:49:05,930 --> 00:48:59,680 to the man who built this mansion well 910 00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:08,600 research has indicated that this is so 911 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:12,640 well it seems like they you know I think 912 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:14,650 they do a lot of these things in 913 00:49:19,940 --> 00:49:18,130 non national parks or you know BLM land 914 00:49:23,370 --> 00:49:19,950 or you know somehow 915 00:49:25,710 --> 00:49:23,380 government-controlled land I think 916 00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:25,720 things are hidden because then they can 917 00:49:31,470 --> 00:49:27,760 always say you know no one can ever dig 918 00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:31,480 here no one can ever look here but I 919 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:34,240 would imagine you know if you were able 920 00:49:41,220 --> 00:49:37,930 to get your information out there and 921 00:49:44,490 --> 00:49:41,230 people agreed that you got some really 922 00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:44,500 solid directions they're really solid 923 00:49:49,980 --> 00:49:47,280 pointers there and solid evidence that 924 00:49:52,830 --> 00:49:49,990 once there was sort of a critical mass 925 00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:52,840 reached at some point you know maybe it 926 00:50:01,020 --> 00:49:58,810 might stir some action so I guess what 927 00:50:03,150 --> 00:50:01,030 you're looking to do is really get the 928 00:50:07,860 --> 00:50:03,160 word out about this get your book out 929 00:50:10,740 --> 00:50:07,870 there and hope that people agree with 930 00:50:13,170 --> 00:50:10,750 your theories or your evidence I don't 931 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:13,180 know that it's really theory at all but 932 00:50:19,740 --> 00:50:16,330 certainly evidence and might find ways 933 00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:19,750 to come on board and help you yeah 934 00:50:26,070 --> 00:50:22,000 that's exactly what I'm trying to do 935 00:50:28,140 --> 00:50:26,080 ranae and and is is this to expose this 936 00:50:30,570 --> 00:50:28,150 right now and to get a little help and 937 00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:30,580 if we can do this thing properly and 938 00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:33,430 conveniently without disrupting the 939 00:50:38,070 --> 00:50:35,440 building without damaging it what's 940 00:50:42,690 --> 00:50:38,080 what's the hurt in invalidating the 941 00:50:47,460 --> 00:50:42,700 existence of perhaps and and this is an 942 00:50:49,860 --> 00:50:47,470 estimation of point 3 48 billion with 943 00:50:52,650 --> 00:50:49,870 the B of gold that could be hidden 944 00:50:55,140 --> 00:50:52,660 within this mansion and I have I have 945 00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:55,150 the nuts and bolts the mathematics done 946 00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:58,480 on the possibility of 348 million 947 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:00,880 dollars worth of gold if all the coins 948 00:51:09,870 --> 00:51:06,490 are possess hidden gold coin and each 949 00:51:12,540 --> 00:51:09,880 coin unit that stack up the crisscross 950 00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:12,550 corners of the building can hold up to 951 00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:15,280 maybe eight hundred coins each within a 952 00:51:22,050 --> 00:51:17,440 four by four inch hollow within the 953 00:51:24,510 --> 00:51:22,060 brick construction of these corners and 954 00:51:27,569 --> 00:51:24,520 if you notice I haven't mentioned the 955 00:51:29,870 --> 00:51:27,579 name of this mansion yet I've noticed 956 00:51:32,729 --> 00:51:29,880 and there's a reason for that right now 957 00:51:36,420 --> 00:51:32,739 one I would I would like people to see 958 00:51:40,890 --> 00:51:36,430 the book and to read about it but I want 959 00:51:43,259 --> 00:51:40,900 I specifically want to encourage no one 960 00:51:46,019 --> 00:51:43,269 to go to this location and damage this 961 00:51:48,269 --> 00:51:46,029 building if they want to go view it it's 962 00:51:52,739 --> 00:51:48,279 a very beautiful building had been there 963 00:51:59,279 --> 00:51:52,749 several times as I've said and it's it's 964 00:52:03,049 --> 00:51:59,289 an American treasure mmm now you know 965 00:52:06,989 --> 00:52:03,059 you're talking about gold coins and 966 00:52:10,349 --> 00:52:06,999 someone in the chatroom apples says so 967 00:52:13,799 --> 00:52:10,359 what's the treasure money and you know I 968 00:52:17,009 --> 00:52:13,809 would hope that you know in an addition 969 00:52:18,749 --> 00:52:17,019 to something like just gold coins that 970 00:52:22,349 --> 00:52:18,759 are worth a lot of money that there 971 00:52:24,690 --> 00:52:22,359 might be some kind of documents some 972 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:24,700 kind of other evidence certainly the 973 00:52:31,499 --> 00:52:26,410 treasures of the temple of Solomon would 974 00:52:36,359 --> 00:52:31,509 be amazing aligned like I said the 975 00:52:40,650 --> 00:52:36,369 treasures of antiquity documents perhaps 976 00:52:42,779 --> 00:52:40,660 remains of bodies of who knows hmm yes 977 00:52:45,959 --> 00:52:42,789 these would be more likely in a 978 00:52:48,089 --> 00:52:45,969 subterranean pit that is protected like 979 00:52:51,569 --> 00:52:48,099 at the small island in the bay of fundy 980 00:52:54,989 --> 00:52:51,579 the the coins in the building that I'm 981 00:52:59,249 --> 00:52:54,999 talking about in Philadelphia and really 982 00:53:01,799 --> 00:52:59,259 hold this the theory suggests gold only 983 00:53:04,019 --> 00:53:01,809 who knows what's in there it could be 984 00:53:07,380 --> 00:53:04,029 jewelry it could be things small enough 985 00:53:09,479 --> 00:53:07,390 to fit in a 4 by 4 inch hollow that's 986 00:53:12,620 --> 00:53:09,489 vertical it goes from ground to the 987 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:12,630 ceiling to the top of the building 988 00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:16,170 within the constructor hidden within 989 00:53:24,569 --> 00:53:19,359 where you can't see it within this brick 990 00:53:27,660 --> 00:53:24,579 construction and now why do you think or 991 00:53:29,699 --> 00:53:27,670 how did you come to the idea that that's 992 00:53:31,949 --> 00:53:29,709 where it would be was there something 993 00:53:34,049 --> 00:53:31,959 that directed you there or just by 994 00:53:35,969 --> 00:53:34,059 looking at the building and the plan the 995 00:53:39,449 --> 00:53:35,979 floor plan you figured that's where it 996 00:53:40,620 --> 00:53:39,459 would have to be Edgar Allan Poe sent me 997 00:53:44,490 --> 00:53:40,630 their true 998 00:53:47,790 --> 00:53:44,500 hoho remember I said that that the air 999 00:53:50,190 --> 00:53:47,800 fendu read me yes sent me to the 1000 00:53:52,530 --> 00:53:50,200 gold-bug which was written by oh and 1001 00:53:55,470 --> 00:53:52,540 look for a spot in the gold-bug that's 1002 00:53:58,500 --> 00:53:55,480 unusual and here's the unusual spot in 1003 00:54:03,030 --> 00:53:58,510 the gold-bug using literary 1004 00:54:05,790 --> 00:54:03,040 steganography this part of the gold-bug 1005 00:54:09,690 --> 00:54:05,800 it says a good glass in the bishops 1006 00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:09,700 hostel in the devil c 41 degrees and 18 1007 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:12,880 minutes northeast by North Main Branch 1008 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:15,610 seventh limb East Side shoot from the 1009 00:54:20,970 --> 00:54:18,490 left eye of the death's-head a beeline 1010 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:20,980 from the tree through the shot fifty 1011 00:54:26,460 --> 00:54:24,850 feet out what does that mean well here's 1012 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:26,470 what it means through literary 1013 00:54:31,050 --> 00:54:28,570 steganography and this is a map to 1014 00:54:34,860 --> 00:54:31,060 treasure and this is what led me to the 1015 00:54:37,020 --> 00:54:34,870 mansion in Philadelphia all genuine 1016 00:54:40,170 --> 00:54:37,030 natural substance with the likeness of 1017 00:54:43,170 --> 00:54:40,180 glass particle in that overseers lodging 1018 00:54:46,530 --> 00:54:43,180 place within that wicked cruel or 1019 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:46,540 ill-tempered persons abode that of prime 1020 00:54:52,590 --> 00:54:49,930 importance single through Union staged 1021 00:54:55,410 --> 00:54:52,600 in ascending process with prime 1022 00:54:59,250 --> 00:54:55,420 importance individuals having definite 1023 00:55:01,860 --> 00:54:59,260 position moreover near to the point of 1024 00:55:05,130 --> 00:55:01,870 prime importance a principal part of a 1025 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:05,140 system of prime importance projecting 1026 00:55:12,900 --> 00:55:07,930 toward the east position with reference 1027 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:12,910 to a central point to dump empty or sun 1028 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:16,330 down a chute start by that thing turned 1029 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:19,810 to the west when facing north something 1030 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:22,450 resembling an eye such as a metal ring 1031 00:55:29,010 --> 00:55:25,330 or loop from in or by that symbol of 1032 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:29,020 mortality one direct line starting point 1033 00:55:34,290 --> 00:55:31,450 by that handle forming part of the 1034 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:34,300 structure which indicates source between 1035 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:37,090 individual members of that woven so as 1036 00:55:44,450 --> 00:55:40,450 to present a play of colors that of 1037 00:55:50,730 --> 00:55:44,460 prime importance pays forth from and 1038 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:50,740 that is in my book wow that is literary 1039 00:55:54,690 --> 00:55:54,130 steganography or pecheur code that is 1040 00:55:56,490 --> 00:55:54,700 how Poe 1041 00:56:01,170 --> 00:55:56,500 hit a message within his tail the 1042 00:56:04,319 --> 00:56:01,180 gold-bug it sent me to the mansion in 1043 00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:04,329 Philadelphia I mean you know I can see 1044 00:56:10,050 --> 00:56:07,270 how you could figure that out from you 1045 00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:10,060 know what you said using that method but 1046 00:56:16,109 --> 00:56:12,880 to write in that way would be so 1047 00:56:18,450 --> 00:56:16,119 difficult it seems like that doesn't it 1048 00:56:21,870 --> 00:56:18,460 I mean he would have had to been super 1049 00:56:24,829 --> 00:56:21,880 brilliant you know to be able to write 1050 00:56:28,890 --> 00:56:24,839 in a way that makes sense just to the 1051 00:56:32,450 --> 00:56:28,900 you know just taking it on its face it 1052 00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:32,460 but also spells it out so clearly in 1053 00:56:38,130 --> 00:56:35,920 steganography yes these men were 1054 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:38,140 absolutely brilliant they had nothing 1055 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:41,410 better to do but to rewrite and discover 1056 00:56:47,460 --> 00:56:44,290 things they didn't have cell phones and 1057 00:56:49,620 --> 00:56:47,470 tvs and computers they they had the 1058 00:56:52,589 --> 00:56:49,630 written word and these men were 1059 00:56:57,210 --> 00:56:52,599 absolutely brilliant and women I mean 1060 00:57:00,660 --> 00:56:57,220 this every poet probably has some idea 1061 00:57:03,630 --> 00:57:00,670 of something hidden in in in in their 1062 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:03,640 works there could be other ways of 1063 00:57:07,290 --> 00:57:05,890 methodologies of hiding but this 1064 00:57:10,109 --> 00:57:07,300 particular method of literary 1065 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:10,119 steganography was so important to 1066 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:12,730 Emerson who wrote this stuff in his poem 1067 00:57:19,099 --> 00:57:16,210 his poems support my research Edgar 1068 00:57:25,470 --> 00:57:19,109 Allan Poe's work support my research and 1069 00:57:28,170 --> 00:57:25,480 and are there others that you know we 1070 00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:28,180 know of that maybe not poets but other 1071 00:57:33,450 --> 00:57:31,030 writers you know I know a lot of writers 1072 00:57:36,660 --> 00:57:33,460 that have been drawn you know to these 1073 00:57:38,599 --> 00:57:36,670 mysteries and they'll be tiny clues in 1074 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:38,609 their works like long as you've earned 1075 00:57:44,510 --> 00:57:41,530 you know has written you know in Journey 1076 00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:44,520 to the Center of the Earth and then i 1077 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:47,200 guess it was Captain dourdan tour or 1078 00:57:51,660 --> 00:57:48,730 something like that it was another book 1079 00:57:54,569 --> 00:57:51,670 where he referred to Captain booga rash 1080 00:57:57,059 --> 00:57:54,579 in booga rash is a mountain outside of 1081 00:57:59,120 --> 00:57:57,069 Rennes le Chateau that's supposed to you 1082 00:58:01,680 --> 00:57:59,130 know some people believe that it 1083 00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:01,690 contains you know bodies of great 1084 00:58:07,230 --> 00:58:05,310 importance and in other other strange 1085 00:58:09,810 --> 00:58:07,240 anomalies 1086 00:58:16,140 --> 00:58:09,820 but have you come across other writers 1087 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:16,150 oh yeah yes yes uh The Journey to the 1088 00:58:20,220 --> 00:58:17,890 Center of the Earth supposedly written 1089 00:58:22,410 --> 00:58:20,230 by Jules Verne was actually probably 1090 00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:22,420 inspired by her maybe even written by 1091 00:58:28,620 --> 00:58:24,880 Edgar Allan Poe who was alive in France 1092 00:58:33,660 --> 00:58:28,630 after 18-49 Baudelaire transcribed his 1093 00:58:37,170 --> 00:58:33,670 his uh actors works in French and and 1094 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:37,180 what would have possessed this man to do 1095 00:58:42,660 --> 00:58:38,890 all this but maybe they're off the 1096 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:42,670 current author himself and and edward de 1097 00:58:47,940 --> 00:58:45,010 vere is another writer that wrote this 1098 00:58:50,370 --> 00:58:47,950 way and maybe come coinciding with 1099 00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:50,380 Francis Bacon as well as the cadre of 1100 00:58:54,530 --> 00:58:52,720 writers hiding these things as the 1101 00:58:57,450 --> 00:58:54,540 pressure code within these writings 1102 00:59:00,300 --> 00:58:57,460 these people all knew each other they 1103 00:59:03,930 --> 00:59:00,310 made there was a conspiracy and I hate 1104 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:03,940 to use that word because it's been duly 1105 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:07,570 abused but it is true if two or more 1106 00:59:14,730 --> 00:59:10,210 people conspire to do something it's a 1107 00:59:19,070 --> 00:59:14,740 conspiracy yes and and and and i am not 1108 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:19,080 a conspiracy Sirius theorists by the 1109 00:59:26,010 --> 00:59:23,770 definition that is so badly abused in 1110 00:59:29,090 --> 00:59:26,020 today's time I am a treasure 1111 00:59:32,310 --> 00:59:29,100 investigator I'm not a treasure hunter I 1112 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:32,320 i investigate things that are anomalies 1113 00:59:37,980 --> 00:59:35,410 and my investigation work comes from the 1114 00:59:40,410 --> 00:59:37,990 background 22-year background in law 1115 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:40,420 enforcement I retired on a law 1116 00:59:45,930 --> 00:59:43,210 enforcement because it became too 1117 00:59:48,359 --> 00:59:45,940 stressful for me and now I work in a 1118 00:59:52,020 --> 00:59:48,369 nice job here locally where I live and 1119 00:59:54,780 --> 00:59:52,030 and and there is a stress free I have a 1120 00:59:59,820 --> 00:59:54,790 lot of friends and supporters for this 1121 01:00:01,830 --> 00:59:59,830 research and and my my background 1122 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:01,840 started in law enforcement in the United 1123 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:05,170 States Air Force I worked a bomb dog and 1124 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:09,250 over in Turkey and and then I then I was 1125 01:00:13,620 --> 01:00:10,810 a policeman for a little while and then 1126 01:00:15,290 --> 01:00:13,630 a railroad detective for 15 years so 1127 01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:15,300 I've applied the learnings and 1128 01:00:20,010 --> 01:00:17,440 investigative work and seeing things 1129 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:20,020 from from the side door from the back 1130 01:00:24,420 --> 01:00:21,010 window 1131 01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:24,430 and observing patterns and this is 1132 01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:27,040 what's caused me in 22 years now in 1133 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:30,310 studying the project ready to learn what 1134 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:32,770 I have learned and now i'm giving it to 1135 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:35,050 the people who it belongs to in this 1136 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:37,810 country and abroad and i have i have 1137 01:00:43,290 --> 01:00:40,330 i've listed here for friends of mine i'd 1138 01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:43,300 like to mention their names and and the 1139 01:00:50,340 --> 01:00:46,720 first one is Roy Dallas Courtland all 1140 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:50,350 and titten soar over in Scotland and 1141 01:00:58,220 --> 01:00:53,530 James Simpson these are very brilliant 1142 01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:01,770 with this project and and I'm happy to 1143 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:04,510 be a better place right and we want to 1144 01:01:09,780 --> 01:01:06,850 thank again Court lindell for making our 1145 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:09,790 connection so that you could come on our 1146 01:01:15,570 --> 01:01:12,370 show tonight and as you know kourt's a 1147 01:01:17,910 --> 01:01:15,580 mutual friend of ours and we have lots 1148 01:01:20,610 --> 01:01:17,920 of very interesting discussions about 1149 01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:20,620 his research and how it sort of 1150 01:01:26,580 --> 01:01:23,110 dovetails with a lot of mind so we have 1151 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:26,590 a lot of fun talking to but now I know 1152 01:01:30,690 --> 01:01:28,450 that you're looking to get this 1153 01:01:34,350 --> 01:01:30,700 information out in the widest way 1154 01:01:37,620 --> 01:01:34,360 possible so people can help in a couple 1155 01:01:40,890 --> 01:01:37,630 of ways i would think one you'd like to 1156 01:01:42,780 --> 01:01:40,900 do lectures so you're available for that 1157 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:42,790 you knew who I think would be interested 1158 01:01:52,140 --> 01:01:47,130 in this material or masonic groups ah 1159 01:01:53,940 --> 01:01:52,150 the masonic groups I I get the feeling 1160 01:01:56,910 --> 01:01:53,950 that I'm not real welcome become 1161 01:02:00,300 --> 01:01:56,920 anything I think they hide the secrets 1162 01:02:02,700 --> 01:02:00,310 that i am trying to uncover and i think 1163 01:02:05,910 --> 01:02:02,710 they they covet these secrets and they 1164 01:02:08,730 --> 01:02:05,920 probably do not want to be a part of 1165 01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:08,740 this i could be wrong they might want to 1166 01:02:14,580 --> 01:02:12,640 find out what all you know might & and 1167 01:02:17,370 --> 01:02:14,590 i'm willing to talk to anybody that 1168 01:02:20,340 --> 01:02:17,380 would would really have their heart in 1169 01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:20,350 this research and want to know and and 1170 01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:23,350 i'm looking to get some some assistance 1171 01:02:31,470 --> 01:02:28,240 so that i can travel and lecture not 1172 01:02:33,940 --> 01:02:31,480 every day but maybe maybe once every two 1173 01:02:38,050 --> 01:02:33,950 or three months or something like that 1174 01:02:40,839 --> 01:02:38,060 to choice select people that are are 1175 01:02:44,410 --> 01:02:40,849 very interested in some things that are 1176 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:44,420 more detailed than what I can get on the 1177 01:02:48,910 --> 01:02:47,210 radio program right so if there are 1178 01:02:51,430 --> 01:02:48,920 people out there that represent 1179 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:51,440 different groups or organizations that 1180 01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:54,290 are interested in this material you know 1181 01:02:58,660 --> 01:02:56,240 you can you can get hold of ken on 1182 01:03:01,300 --> 01:02:58,670 facebook you can also get hold of me 1183 01:03:03,430 --> 01:03:01,310 through inception and I will pass the 1184 01:03:05,829 --> 01:03:03,440 messages on if you'd like to hear more 1185 01:03:08,700 --> 01:03:05,839 and I would imagine he's going to reveal 1186 01:03:11,079 --> 01:03:08,710 a little bit more when he has more time 1187 01:03:15,250 --> 01:03:11,089 so that's one way that you can do it 1188 01:03:17,589 --> 01:03:15,260 also i know that funding would help and 1189 01:03:19,540 --> 01:03:17,599 do you have a mechanism set up by which 1190 01:03:21,130 --> 01:03:19,550 people could help out in that way if 1191 01:03:24,370 --> 01:03:21,140 they don't have a group that they could 1192 01:03:26,770 --> 01:03:24,380 invite you to maybe to help fund some of 1193 01:03:30,130 --> 01:03:26,780 your research or trips or something like 1194 01:03:33,010 --> 01:03:30,140 that is do something set up but where 1195 01:03:35,230 --> 01:03:33,020 people can donate I don't have a 1196 01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:35,240 mechanism set up probably the best ways 1197 01:03:40,569 --> 01:03:38,480 to contact me privately through email or 1198 01:03:43,030 --> 01:03:40,579 through Facebook and then we can 1199 01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:43,040 communicate after a conversation that I 1200 01:03:47,319 --> 01:03:45,200 have with you on telephone and then I 1201 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:47,329 can reveal information where we can make 1202 01:03:51,670 --> 01:03:49,250 the connection right so if you're 1203 01:03:56,290 --> 01:03:51,680 looking for candidates Kenneth and drew 1204 01:03:57,700 --> 01:03:56,300 baumann be a um a n on facebook and you 1205 01:04:00,040 --> 01:03:57,710 can send them a message or send them a 1206 01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:00,050 friend request if you have any problem 1207 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:03,920 finding him just contact me I'm you know 1208 01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:07,250 on Facebook and also you can contact me 1209 01:04:12,700 --> 01:04:09,280 through inception radio network and 1210 01:04:14,890 --> 01:04:12,710 we'll get all the messages Renee can I 1211 01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:14,900 make one quick comment here you sure can 1212 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:19,609 i have a magnum opus prepared it is a it 1213 01:04:27,970 --> 01:04:22,970 is a document i think it's about 133 1214 01:04:31,750 --> 01:04:27,980 pages and i've called it and the truth 1215 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:31,760 shall set you free I've no one to date 1216 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:34,490 has viewed this manuscript and I'm 1217 01:04:38,890 --> 01:04:36,290 waiting to see if there's anybody that 1218 01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:38,900 would want to possibly do movie rights 1219 01:04:43,150 --> 01:04:40,730 or anything like that that would be 1220 01:04:46,510 --> 01:04:43,160 interested in seeing this manuscript and 1221 01:04:47,740 --> 01:04:46,520 there's a pre magnum opus that I've 1222 01:04:51,220 --> 01:04:47,750 titled 1223 01:04:55,450 --> 01:04:51,230 a Kings sword drawn from the stone of 1224 01:04:59,890 --> 01:04:55,460 embedded secret information which leads 1225 01:05:02,770 --> 01:04:59,900 into the magnum opus I out on Justin 1226 01:05:05,710 --> 01:05:02,780 these have been prepared on sat on them 1227 01:05:08,350 --> 01:05:05,720 for quite some time and I'm waiting for 1228 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:08,360 the right person i also have an 1229 01:05:13,870 --> 01:05:10,610 investment proposal created that i can 1230 01:05:17,110 --> 01:05:13,880 send out to very interested select 1231 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:17,120 persons that would be serious about this 1232 01:05:24,430 --> 01:05:21,410 research and we can go from there yeah 1233 01:05:26,710 --> 01:05:24,440 well let's talk after this show or you 1234 01:05:30,940 --> 01:05:26,720 know on another time to be happy to look 1235 01:05:34,420 --> 01:05:30,950 at your script idea for film and you 1236 01:05:36,490 --> 01:05:34,430 know that's sort of my my business is 1237 01:05:38,830 --> 01:05:36,500 television and film production out here 1238 01:05:41,350 --> 01:05:38,840 in Los Angeles so be happy to look at it 1239 01:05:43,030 --> 01:05:41,360 and maybe might be able to suggest some 1240 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:43,040 people to you know you might want to get 1241 01:05:48,730 --> 01:05:45,410 it too or I might be able to get get it 1242 01:05:50,830 --> 01:05:48,740 to for you so we'll talk about that off 1243 01:05:54,010 --> 01:05:50,840 the air but if anybody wants to help get 1244 01:05:58,960 --> 01:05:54,020 hold of me get hold of ken Kenneth and 1245 01:06:01,120 --> 01:05:58,970 drew baumann on facebook and also you 1246 01:06:03,070 --> 01:06:01,130 know just hit him up on Facebook and let 1247 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:03,080 him know that you heard the show and 1248 01:06:09,370 --> 01:06:05,890 that you're interested in his research 1249 01:06:12,430 --> 01:06:09,380 so good as we've got just about two 1250 01:06:15,700 --> 01:06:12,440 minutes left Kenneth if there's anything 1251 01:06:18,490 --> 01:06:15,710 you wanted to make sure that we get in 1252 01:06:21,190 --> 01:06:18,500 here before we wrap up maybe you might 1253 01:06:23,140 --> 01:06:21,200 want to give out the website again for 1254 01:06:25,390 --> 01:06:23,150 your book if you don't mind I'm sorry 1255 01:06:26,950 --> 01:06:25,400 I'm looking for it frantically and can't 1256 01:06:30,430 --> 01:06:26,960 find it so if you don't mind giving out 1257 01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:30,440 again a real friend a I'll make 22 1258 01:06:46,860 --> 01:06:32,960 comments one of the website the website 1259 01:06:53,590 --> 01:06:46,870 is WWE 8 space com /i 54 1639 and 1260 01:06:57,370 --> 01:06:53,600 concerning intuition intuition is like 1261 01:07:00,250 --> 01:06:57,380 miracle to me it's a hit of intuition 1262 01:07:01,309 --> 01:07:00,260 it's like a communication and we can 1263 01:07:04,489 --> 01:07:01,319 lead into 1264 01:07:08,539 --> 01:07:04,499 ibly another dimension or what I call 1265 01:07:11,180 --> 01:07:08,549 consciousness an outside consciousness 1266 01:07:15,079 --> 01:07:11,190 this project has identified this juicy 1267 01:07:18,170 --> 01:07:15,089 tidbit that I have manuscript completed 1268 01:07:21,380 --> 01:07:18,180 and if anybody's interested in this this 1269 01:07:24,529 --> 01:07:21,390 is the reason that this project has come 1270 01:07:26,420 --> 01:07:24,539 to me in my mind through this objective 1271 01:07:29,660 --> 01:07:26,430 study originally of the sword in the 1272 01:07:32,359 --> 01:07:29,670 coin it's a beautiful project it's what 1273 01:07:36,079 --> 01:07:32,369 people need today not violence they need 1274 01:07:39,829 --> 01:07:36,089 reading writing study investigation 1275 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:39,839 discovered an enthusiam and I'll hands 1276 01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:43,650 back alright well the music is rolling 1277 01:07:48,109 --> 01:07:46,680 so that's perfect timing Dennis bellman 1278 01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:48,119 thanks so much for joining us this 1279 01:07:53,390 --> 01:07:50,400 evening and thank you all for listening 1280 01:07:55,719 --> 01:07:53,400 thank you MJ our wonderful producer and 1281 01:07:58,519 --> 01:07:55,729 we will see you all right here next week